Create the conditions where people want to participate.
Recently I had the chance to talk with Brad Jeavons of the Enterprise Excellence Podcast, on the applications of my new book Leadership Levers.
There are some people where you just get on with, and Brad was one of those people for me.
Our early morning conversation was wide ranging. He asked great questions, then created these two podcasts.
The links are here. you can listen directly or download these to listen later.

Leaders have got their arms around their content, and information and logic and all that kind of stuff, where actually, it’s the way they can help people interact with one another that is at the core.- Diana Jones
Listen to the Enterprise Excellence podcast #69 here
People who are coming back to work and are coming back to face to face work are not going to tolerate boring meetings. They’re not going to tolerate being in groups with people they don’t want to be with. And so, leaders are going to have to do something that really makes people want to be together, want to work together, and want to produce together. – Diana Jones