Conversation with Dan Janal on his podcast series: Top Business Leaders

In Washington DC earlier this year, I was delighted to be interviewed by Dan Janal as part of his Top Business Leaders podcast series. (23 minutes). We discuss my experiences of writing my book Leadership Material, and the impact of the book on my work.

P.S. One correction: the NZ population is just under 5 million, the population of Wellington is 400,000!

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